I tell women straight out, “I want to come with you.” If she tells you to go ahead without her, do so.
Some women can’t come easily or in certain situations.
If you do that, she’ll be excited to keep sharing her sexual side both over the phone and in-person. When you see her next, the dynamic shifts completely — it’s now going to be romantic.
I’ve taught you how to have phone sex with her but how does that lead to real sex with her? She’s openly expressed that she wants to be intimate with you.
Then roll back into, “So describe it to me.” Once she answers those initial questions, follow up with the question that kickstarts the session: “Where are your hands right now? Then to rub her fingers gently over her clit and so on.